1. Any gender analysis – by definition – has to take into account relative sexism, against both genders (see point 6 below). This seems to be missing (so far).
2. Tom is wrong to suggest that Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan are anything other than militant patriarchies. The notion that managing your husband’s power is any kind of freedom in the context of those countries is not one you can seriously hang onto. If we all agree that, how can we change those cultues, and is it lamentable cowardice on all our behalves that we do not try?
3. There have been several ‘ad hominum’ attacks on Tom, which have grown repetitive and a tertiary-education quality debate deserves so much more. Having said that, using the word ‘whoreocracy’ was the firecracker, and again in the context of SA and A, invalid. I’ve not heard it before. If you apply it to the women who chase after footballers in those ‘footballer clubs’, it has a touch of truth. Why aren’t those girls chasing interesting but impoversished intellectuals like myself with really good ideas .
4) On the subject of ‘women steering men’, I would simply ask that the readership looks at their parents. Alternatively, go into House of Fraser, John Lewis, on a Saturday afternoon – it is 90% female purchasers buying expensive stuff for the house or to make themsleves more attractive. This is a HUGE business, and one that is impacting the environments and in the case of cosmetics, animal welfare. Women do make most of the household decisions, and woe betide any man who doesn’t want to spend any money on it, book holidays or drive his family to places they need / want to go to. Is it the readership’s experience that older couples (say late Twenties, Thirties and Forties) live the old adage that ‘women marry – or cohabit – up’?
Why after 40 years of the Equality movement is this still (even more) the case? Men are criticised for patriachial behaviour – but your rock and music (esp. rap) star, and rich men – are idolised, chased after and not criticised.
5) Tom does not seem to have included much detail or references on this site. If they are all on his sexismbusters site, they can be easily transferred over to here? He has used the term ‘victim feminism’ – his opposing debaters here need to therefore counter with the other types of feminism they have read about or practice.
6) One poster queried how men are discriminated against: ok – if there is a divorce, the guy usually loses his home and access to children; any allegation at all indicates the police HAVE to arrest (a bit Kafkaesque surely?); the media portray men as idiots needing the most basic help and as sex objects – most ‘medical educational’ programmes would not show or discuss women in graphic detail and no-one complains about the Chippendales; their health outcomes, suicide and death rates at work are much much worse than women’s; and positive discrimination programmes are always pro everybody but them (are the sins of the Alphas from the Fifties are being taken out on the younger Beta males of today?).

I truly hope in the interest of my understanding, and a more useful debate, that this can be posted and answered with the readership’s full and frank views.

They’re getting slammed on Twitter for this, and the F Word have got a piece up about it already. I don’t see them changing it though, it’s just par for the course for the Fail.

FACT: the Fail is now the world’s most popular news website.

“PCSO who had seven-month affair with 12-year-old girl jailed for rape after they were caught together on sofa by his wife”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095990/PCSO-Michael-Yardley-affair-girl-12-jailed-rape.html#ixzz1lLYRE9Mt

Affair????????With a 12 year old?